[ jason did tell him recently that if only his leg returned from errands, he'd honor him by using it to beat people with. so there's that. ]
Think so. Time's kinda off for us, but if there's anything else different, he hasn't told me.
[ of course, it's jason. he's not exactly the most giving with information, but the thought of it doesn't bother roy that much. it won't change who he is or how he relates to the people he knows. he's busy taking measurements, recording notes with his implant, and glances up to damian's face for a second. ]
What about you? Is it our future you're from, or a different place completely?
Really. Took a nuke for someone to finally off the Joker? [ he meets damian's eyes for a moment, letting that new sink in, heavy in his chest, and roy sighs, shaking his head. ] I wish I could be surprised.
[ 'beat a child to death with a crowbar' was the line for roy, honestly, but ollie wasn't ever as into bruce's theory on non-lethal methods. a lot of people deserve a second chance, sure, and maybe they don't have the authority or moral ground to decide that themselves, but you know what? if it were making that choice or losing millions, you're damn right the Joker's going 6 feet under. ]
Bats still running around, or are you guys on your own now?
B did? [ said with brows raised, roy meeting damian’s eyes again to make sure he heard that right. Wow, someone fell pretty fucking low. ] Even after the nuke, he still thinks Arkham’s enough to handle people like the Joker?
[ not exactly a new concept, but still a fucking aggravating one. As far as roy’s concerned, the joker should’ve been taken out days, hours, minutes after what happened to jason, but gotham has never been his city, and roy’s vote doesn’t count. ]
Welp, you don’t usually graduate from sidekick without a period of not being on speaking terms. [ as a batkid or an arrowkid, that’s just how it be sometimes. ] So, fuck Batman, and congrats on leaving the kiddie table.
Arkham's gone. That was what he threw his first fit over - it being shut down and somewhere better being built. [ he scoffs, clearly annoyed. ] But that's the right attitude.
[ pity roy doesn't agree with him in his own world. a goddamn shame oliver queen had to go and get himself killed by fighting for the wrong cause. ]
[ the word sidekick is an unpleasant feeling for most of these former sidekicks, so he gets it. it's one thing when its a semi-adoptive dad weaponizing you, another when it's the biological one that's supposed to be protecting you at all costs. but, hey, vigilante life is like that. ]
Wait wait, you're saying he got his bat-panties in a twist because someone wanted to improve the holding pen for the criminally insane?
[ if he's understanding 'shut down and somewhere better being built' correctly. makes it sound like your routine civic infrastructure boost, so what's batman's issue? ]
What, was he hoping the asbestos would finish the job on everyone he threw in there?
[ roy snorts, shaking his head. man, the future is a hell of a trip, isn't it? ]
Jesus. God forfuckingbid a rehabilitation system actually work to rehabilitate people.
[ and the boy in him that had his life saved by rehabilitation programs and people is deeply annoyed that bruce only cares about keeping criminals alive so long as he gets to beat them up again. yeah, sure, that's the right way to solve a crime epidemic, makes total sense. asshat. ]
Always knew Bats was a little unhinged, but I never expected he'd go that far. [ said somewhat more somberly, ] Sorry that's all been put on you to handle.
Down, boy. I'm talking about people like Killer Croc, not the ones like Joker.
[ those can just go. he's done way more crime than any kind of rehabilitation can deal with or make up for, and after a nuke? yeah, not all criminals are the same level of hopeless, that part he won't budge on, but he can agree with the rest. ]
So he's back on the murder train now? [ roy leans back, cross his arms over his chest and tilting his head as he regards damian, trying to wrap his brain around this. ] Where's that leave you in all this?
[ oh. well. his grandfather took care of that one. ]
In that case, I'm sure you'll be happy to hear he's married to Orca. Don't try to imagine that.
[ just don't. ]
He's not. He's pro-locking everyone who disagrees with him up and spying on them with satellites, "for their own good". [ he knows jason knows, and he also knows jason won't rat him out. ] I'm pro-permanent solutions for unrepentant murderers and shoving the rest of them where they can't hurt anyone. So's Superman.
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Date: 2020-07-28 01:35 pm (UTC)Think so. Time's kinda off for us, but if there's anything else different, he hasn't told me.
[ of course, it's jason. he's not exactly the most giving with information, but the thought of it doesn't bother roy that much. it won't change who he is or how he relates to the people he knows. he's busy taking measurements, recording notes with his implant, and glances up to damian's face for a second. ]
What about you? Is it our future you're from, or a different place completely?
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Date: 2020-07-28 06:02 pm (UTC)[ bless jason for not dropping all his secrets. damian meets his eyes for a moment and then looks away. ]
In my world, Joker dropped a nuke on Metropolis. Killed millions... We stopped putting up with people like him after that.
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Date: 2020-08-14 05:31 pm (UTC)[ 'beat a child to death with a crowbar' was the line for roy, honestly, but ollie wasn't ever as into bruce's theory on non-lethal methods. a lot of people deserve a second chance, sure, and maybe they don't have the authority or moral ground to decide that themselves, but you know what? if it were making that choice or losing millions, you're damn right the Joker's going 6 feet under. ]
Bats still running around, or are you guys on your own now?
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Date: 2020-08-14 05:33 pm (UTC)[ his voice is terribly cold. lacking any and all sympathy. ]
We're not on speaking terms.
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Date: 2020-08-17 04:24 pm (UTC)[ not exactly a new concept, but still a fucking aggravating one. As far as roy’s concerned, the joker should’ve been taken out days, hours, minutes after what happened to jason, but gotham has never been his city, and roy’s vote doesn’t count. ]
Welp, you don’t usually graduate from sidekick without a period of not being on speaking terms. [ as a batkid or an arrowkid, that’s just how it be sometimes. ] So, fuck Batman, and congrats on leaving the kiddie table.
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Date: 2020-08-21 11:26 am (UTC)Arkham's gone. That was what he threw his first fit over - it being shut down and somewhere better being built. [ he scoffs, clearly annoyed. ] But that's the right attitude.
[ pity roy doesn't agree with him in his own world. a goddamn shame oliver queen had to go and get himself killed by fighting for the wrong cause. ]
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Date: 2020-08-26 03:20 pm (UTC)Wait wait, you're saying he got his bat-panties in a twist because someone wanted to improve the holding pen for the criminally insane?
[ if he's understanding 'shut down and somewhere better being built' correctly. makes it sound like your routine civic infrastructure boost, so what's batman's issue? ]
What, was he hoping the asbestos would finish the job on everyone he threw in there?
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Date: 2020-08-26 03:37 pm (UTC)[ he scoffs. ]
I watched him use every single file he had on the rest of the League to try to torture them into agreeing that things were fine as they were.
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Date: 2020-08-26 04:19 pm (UTC)Jesus. God forfuckingbid a rehabilitation system actually work to rehabilitate people.
[ and the boy in him that had his life saved by rehabilitation programs and people is deeply annoyed that bruce only cares about keeping criminals alive so long as he gets to beat them up again. yeah, sure, that's the right way to solve a crime epidemic, makes total sense. asshat. ]
Always knew Bats was a little unhinged, but I never expected he'd go that far. [ said somewhat more somberly, ] Sorry that's all been put on you to handle.
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Date: 2020-08-26 04:24 pm (UTC)[ sorry, roy. ]
Or were. [ he scoffs again. ] He changed tack and decided maybe we weren't so wrong once he was in charge again.
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Date: 2020-08-26 04:33 pm (UTC)[ those can just go. he's done way more crime than any kind of rehabilitation can deal with or make up for, and after a nuke? yeah, not all criminals are the same level of hopeless, that part he won't budge on, but he can agree with the rest. ]
So he's back on the murder train now? [ roy leans back, cross his arms over his chest and tilting his head as he regards damian, trying to wrap his brain around this. ] Where's that leave you in all this?
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Date: 2020-08-26 07:15 pm (UTC)In that case, I'm sure you'll be happy to hear he's married to Orca. Don't try to imagine that.
[ just don't. ]
He's not. He's pro-locking everyone who disagrees with him up and spying on them with satellites, "for their own good". [ he knows jason knows, and he also knows jason won't rat him out. ] I'm pro-permanent solutions for unrepentant murderers and shoving the rest of them where they can't hurt anyone. So's Superman.