Kaldur, he has files on all the JL members and how to take them down. BM is excessively paranoid and controlling. He's only nice to you if you don't see it.
I would not put it past the man I know to have such files. I am not so naive.
Nor is 'nice' the word I would use.
But I remain convinced that the man you know and the man I know are different. Perhaps they have the capacity to become one another and all that distinguishes them is their experiences - but different universes lead to different experiences and I will not judge one man by the actions of another.
[ kaldur's relationship with his father and his feelings about his father are complicated to say the least, but he would think anyone else well within their right to speak of his father this way.
he knows better than to point that out. what purpose would it serve? ]
[ he has a headache. he's snapping. this is all not how he wanted this to go. distantly he recognizes that kaldur is trying to help - they've all been trying to help.
There's a significant delay in his response. ]
Believe it or not, I do listen when other people speak. I don't always agree, but I listen.
I don't understand why someone having a different experience automatically invalidates mine. I can hear theirs and understand it. But if theirs says "there is no danger" and mine says there is - isn't the responsible thing to do to prepare for the possibility of there being danger?
Then why the pushback? Why the fighting over semantics? We don't know what we're dealing with. Not fully. It's irresponsible to ignore it, and it's suicidal to pretend that what we've faced so far hasn't faced a very real chance of dividing and killing us.
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Date: 2019-05-05 10:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-05 11:39 am (UTC)If Griffin is allowed to disregard everything I say and make personal attacks on me, I see no point in continuing to even try.
[ the biggest, most over dramatic BABY ]
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Date: 2019-05-05 12:03 pm (UTC)[ don't be a baby ]
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Date: 2019-05-08 03:29 am (UTC)[ im gonna be a BABY ]
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Date: 2019-05-08 07:00 am (UTC)[ be a baby for a little while ]
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Date: 2019-05-08 07:11 am (UTC)and then, fifteen minutes later. ]
I'm not crazy for thinking she was out of line.
[ it's partly a question, partly a demand for REASSURANCE. ]
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Date: 2019-05-10 08:25 am (UTC)[ but how does he put this - ]
You are not generally inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt. I assume it is because of your experiences?
[ it's a question, not a rebuke. he only hopes damian will take it as such. ]
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Date: 2019-05-10 08:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-10 09:38 am (UTC)[ the batman he knows had been strict - but also kind, at times. there'd been humour, too, and respect. ]
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Date: 2019-05-10 09:40 am (UTC)He likes thinking up ways to hurt people to make them agree with him.
He comes here, you stay away from him.
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Date: 2019-05-10 09:49 am (UTC)If the one you know comes here, I will.
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Date: 2019-05-10 09:57 am (UTC)BM is excessively paranoid and controlling. He's only nice to you if you don't see it.
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Date: 2019-05-10 10:00 am (UTC)Nor is 'nice' the word I would use.
But I remain convinced that the man you know and the man I know are different. Perhaps they have the capacity to become one another and all that distinguishes them is their experiences - but different universes lead to different experiences and I will not judge one man by the actions of another.
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Date: 2019-05-10 10:19 am (UTC)I can't make you believe anything, I think today's made that abundantly clear.
Don't come crying to me when you get fucked over.
this is going so well
Date: 2019-05-10 10:23 am (UTC)sorry kaldur
Date: 2019-05-10 10:26 am (UTC)I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about at any given time and all my experiences are invalid.
it's a good thing he's a patient man
Date: 2019-05-10 10:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-10 11:06 am (UTC)Not him.
I wouldn't say that about your father, don't say that about mine.
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Date: 2019-05-10 11:50 am (UTC)he knows better than to point that out. what purpose would it serve? ]
I understand.
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Date: 2019-05-10 08:49 pm (UTC)There's a significant delay in his response. ]
Believe it or not, I do listen when other people speak.
I don't always agree, but I listen.
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Date: 2019-05-11 07:27 am (UTC)[ he is, he's not just saying that. ]
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Date: 2019-05-11 11:47 am (UTC)I can hear theirs and understand it.
But if theirs says "there is no danger" and mine says there is - isn't the responsible thing to do to prepare for the possibility of there being danger?
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Date: 2019-05-12 11:56 am (UTC)[ to prepare for the possibility - but not to the certainty. ]
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Date: 2019-05-12 11:57 am (UTC)Why the fighting over semantics?
We don't know what we're dealing with. Not fully. It's irresponsible to ignore it, and it's suicidal to pretend that what we've faced so far hasn't faced a very real chance of dividing and killing us.
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Date: 2019-05-22 08:15 pm (UTC)What do you want an explanation for? On what points I disagree with you, or on what points others seem to disagree, or why, in my view?
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