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Does he share a universe with any of you?

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He's from the same one as [ hold on he has to check what exactly baby jay is going by - really? really. ]Robert.
Seems like they lucked out in the Bruce department.

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Plisskin?

[ terrible, but everything also makes an awful lot of sense now ]

Somebody had to eventually.
How's he settling in with you all?

[batricide]

About as well as you can expect. At this rate, Cain may be the new favorite.

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You're getting along with Cassandra and the problem brother but Dick's an issue?

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[ . . . ]

I know my brother. No matter what universe he is from, Dick's made of the same material.
We're going to have some disagreements down the line.

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I think you've just hit on the definition of sibling, congratulations.

Are you pleased he's here?

[ That's the true test. Whether those future disagreements feel like they might be worth the trouble, or whether anxiety about the arrival outweighs anything else. ]

[batricide]

That's not what I mean and you know it.

I don't know yet.

[rehandle]

You don't want to have to fight with him.

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No, I don't.
This one doesn't know me at all and I don't typically engender good will.
All he has to do is look back on the network and he'll see where we disagree.

[ suddenly all of strange's "BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU POST ON THE INTERNET" conversations make a lot more sense. ]

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Then you may as well have the conversations early if you think they're going to come up.

[batricide]

Right. That will go well.
"Hey Dick, I think some people need to be put down like rabid animals. Thoughts?"

[rehandle]

Damian.

[batricide]

What?

[rehandle]

You're not good with surprises. If you wait until this comes to you it may well turn into a fight. If you take the time to think sensibly about what it is you need to discuss before it lands on your doorstep, then take it to him, you can make sure it's a conversation.

Flippancy isn't going to help you.

[batricide]

Explain how to have a conversation about such a fundamental disagreement.
I'm not budging on my view.

[rehandle]

Why not?

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Metropolis.

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I know. But you're not in Metropolis now.

Let's have the conversation. You're going to have to have it with Dick sooner or later.

[batricide]

Fine.
You can't rehab a psychopathic murderer no matter how many asylums you stick them in.
Killing someone who takes pleasure out of hurting other people is the only logical choice.

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How many murders are we using to determine an irredeemable killer? If someone arrives who's a known murderer in somebody else's world, do we take them out based on reputation alone or do we have to wait for a crime to be committed? If we only have one person's word against theirs, do we assume our friend is honest, or do we have to wait?

If we have to wait, do we contain the threat in the meantime? If we can contain the threat in the short term, why can't we do so indefinitely?

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Because it never works.
What someone did in their world can't be proven or disproven, but if you wait they'll start returning to their old ways. They always do.

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The Loki of my world attempted to overtake the Earth by route of alien invasion, killing some himself in pursuit of making way for his army, others dying in the battle that ensued. Who knows how many would have died without the input of the Avengers.

By your rule, Loki would be dead now. He's been here since I arrived, I've yet to see any heinous crimes.

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I just said what happened in their world doesn't apply here.
Loki is a god. They don't tend to abide by human morality.

[rehandle]

So we do have to wait for evidence of a problem before action should be taken. That's a clear limit, good.

Do we take a person's heritage and related morality into account when coming to a decision?